Lloyd_ZFS768: Hi, my name is Lloyd_ZFS768, please give me a moment to review your information.
tim fitzgerald: hi lloyd, thanks
Lloyd_ZFS768: Thanks for waiting. You’ll have to get the original purchaser to contact the point of purchase (Ticketmaster , box office ect.)
Lloyd_ZFS768: is there anything else I can look into for you?
tim fitzgerald: yes
Lloyd_ZFS768: ok
tim fitzgerald: i want to know what the point of purchase was
tim fitzgerald: the tickets were a gift, the person who bought them is out of the country
tim fitzgerald: there must be something distinguishing about the tickets to tell me how they were purchased
tim fitzgerald: if they were bought from TM, i know the money will automatically be returned to the purchaser and that’s fine. if they weren’t, i need to do something to get that money because otherwise it will evaporate while they’re away
Lloyd_ZFS768:
Ok, the person who bought them will need to go to where ever they got them to inquire about a refund the reason is..
Lloyd_ZFS768: that we cannot credit the card of a third party
tim fitzgerald: it’s unacceptable that the money spent would be forfeited (i.e. seized by whoever issued the ticket) in case the original purchaser could not handle the refund
Lloyd_ZFS768: do you have the order number, name , billing address and last 4 digits of the original card?
tim fitzgerald: it’s bad enough that the show was cancelled, but you’re telling me you’re just going to take the money unless my friend who is completely unavailable for the next 60+ days can show up and handle the refund.
tim fitzgerald: no.
tim fitzgerald: the tickets were given to me.
tim fitzgerald: if they were purchased at the box office, i will go there and handle it myself. if they weren’t, i need to know that as well.
Lloyd_ZFS768: the box office will refund if that is where they were bought.
tim fitzgerald: great. so lloyd, can you save me an hour of my life going to the box office without knowing whether they sold the ticket, by simply asking for one of these identifying numbers and interpreting it for me? please?
Lloyd_ZFS768: Only if you can verify the billing information I mentiond earlier.. This why I said the original purchaser should contact us
tim fitzgerald: lloyd, i don’t think you’re hearing me, and there is absolutely no reasonable reason why you should be refusing to verify these tickets
tim fitzgerald: the original purchaser cannot do this.
tim fitzgerald: i can tell you his name and billing address. the card number is not something it would make any sense for me to have.
Lloyd_ZFS768: let me check the show…you may have more time than we thought3.
Lloyd_ZFS768: I can’t comment on the order its’ self but the show was canceld so the money has probably been given back to your friend already.
tim fitzgerald: lloyd
tim fitzgerald: the money would only be refunded if it was purchased with a credit card via ticketmaster
tim fitzgerald: is my understanding
tim fitzgerald: without knowing where it was purchased, i don’t know whether it was refunded
tim fitzgerald: and he is not anywhere that ticketmaster or anyone else could have notified him that this happened
tim fitzgerald: he has no idea the show was cancelled, i guarantee
tim fitzgerald: he’s in the middle of africa somewhere
tim fitzgerald: please just tell me how i can look at this ticket and identify the point of purchase
Lloyd_ZFS768: you need to contact the person that gave you the tickets. they will know where they got them..If it was us we will refund.
tim fitzgerald: but you must know, because i already mentioned it several times, that contacting the person who gave me the tickets is not possible.
tim fitzgerald: so repeating that is not helpful.
tim fitzgerald: and for that matter, what if they didn’t know where they got them? what if they were senile and couldn’t remember? or, god forbid, deceased? you’d put up a roadblock and, for no reason, tell me you couldn’t tell me anything? for the love of god, man, why are you making this so difficult?
Lloyd_ZFS768: sir if I had a different answer I would have told you.
tim fitzgerald: so you’re saying that there’s absolutely nothing about these tickets that someone like you could use to identify who had issued the ticket
tim fitzgerald: not one of the at least 3 serial numbers on this ticket would help you determine where it came from?
tim fitzgerald: for example, NDL400A, which could simply indicate the venue, or it could mean that it was purchased at the nederlander box office
tim fitzgerald: or CA277NDL, also seeming to indicate the nederlander in an obvious way
Lloyd_ZFS768: Sir, knowing the serial numbers will not help because even if I had the order infront of me you would still need to verify the purchasing card number
tim fitzgerald: there’s also a 12-digit code that looks less interpretable but undoubtedly also is built in a way that someone could look at it and know what it meant
tim fitzgerald: christ on a crutch, what reasonable need could there possibly be for me to have the billing info? if it was purchased with a credit card, it would be refunded to that card and there’s no way in hell i could pull anything to interfere with that. if it wasn’t purchased with a credit card, or wasn’t purchased from you, knowing that also would not help me do anything underhanded.
tim fitzgerald: This is just the worst customer service — and I understand you’re implementing a policy, and I feel bad for you that you work for a company that would sacrifice basic customer satisfaction in favor of policies that actually accomplish nothing and protect nothing. I could have walked away from this conversation thinking positively about Ticketmaster 15 minutes ago with the basic, harmless info I asked for
tim fitzgerald: instead your policy is that you can’t help me. for no reason.
Lloyd_ZFS768: Tim. a supervisor is volenteering to call you. may I have your best phone number?
tim fitzgerald: great, thanks. 508 xxx xxxx
Lloyd_ZFS768: ok. i’ll follow up with the sup for you. Are there any issue that I CAN help you with?
tim fitzgerald: when do you think they’ll call?
Lloyd_ZFS768: hold on I’ll try to find out
tim fitzgerald: no, this is literally the only thing i needed. i hope you understand that this is between me and ticketmaster and you shouldn’t take it personally that i’m so frustrated. undoubtedly you’ve done all you can, and it’s not your fault that your employer is a monopoly that should have been drawn and quartered by the department of justice like 20 years ago already.
tim fitzgerald: thank you lloyd.
Lloyd_ZFS768: ok Tim it will be in about 10 minutes or so. He has another fan he has to finish up with first
tim fitzgerald: hahah. are you being ironic, or is fan the word you’re supposed to use for ticketmaster customers?
Lloyd_ZFS768: I never take things personall;y. I wasn’t born an agent
Lloyd_ZFS768: no not ironic. that’s the truth
tim fitzgerald: good, i’m glad. just wanted to clarify where the frustration was supposed to be directed. i appreciate you sticking with me
Lloyd_ZFS768: I understand. Seriously do need anything else from me.. show info or other orders
tim fitzgerald: hahah no, i’m good. i avoid ticketmaster like the plague so all the live music i’m seeing this month will be in venues not controlled by emperor palpatine.
tim fitzgerald: thanks lloyd! have a good night.
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tim fitzgerald: the word fan is insanely condescending; it presupposes that we are happy being TM customers which is not where customer service should start from
tim fitzgerald: i hope you can convince your bosses to be less of a dick! good luck!